Keep Leading!® Podcast Episode 042: Conscious Living Mastery

Keep Leading!® Podcast Episode 042: Conscious Living Mastery

Patrick Williams
Life and Leadership Coach
Conscious Living Mastery

Episode Summary
Dr. Patrick Williams, Ed.D., MCC is known as The Ambassador of Life Coaching! We discuss the value of coaching in its various forms, his latest book highlighting the importance of emotional honesty and the importance of being vulnerable, and his living legacy.

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Bio
Dr. Patrick Williams, Ed.D., MCC
One of the early pioneers of coaching, Pat is often called the ambassador of life coaching. Pat has been a licensed psychologist since 1980 and began executive coaching in 1990 with Hewlett Packard, IBM, Kodak and other companies along the front range of Colorado.

Pat is a past board member of the International Coach Federation (ICF), and co-chaired the ICF regulatory committee. and ethics committee. He is past president of ACTO, the Association of Coach Training Organizations and an honorary VP of the International Society of Coaching Psychology. Pat was also honored in 2008 as the educator of the year for the New England Educational Institute. And most recently in 2018 , Pat was inducted into the inaugural class of the Circle of Distinction, a global award from the International Coach Federation.

In May of 2006 Pat was awarded the first Global Visionary Fellowship by the Foundation of Coaching for his Coaching the Global Village (www.CoachingtheGlobalVillage.org) initiative to bring coaching methodologies to villages in developing countries and to leaders of non profits and nongovernmental organizations who serve them. He is passionate about coaching and dedicated to ensuring it remains a respected profession.

Current projects have included teaching coaching to dozens of federal prisoners, speaking at their graduation ceremonies and currently working on a documentary film about the power of the coach approach for those in prison and for re-entry success back into society.
Pat is also a member of: Forbes Coaching Council

And a recent inductee in the inaugural class of the Circle of Distinction of the ICF

Pat has authored multiple articles and has co-authored the following books:

  • Therapist as Life Coach: Transforming Your Practice (2nd Edition 2007)
  • Total Life Coaching: 50+ Life Lessons, Skills, and Techniques to Enhance your Practice and Your Life (2005)
  • The Law and Ethics in Coaching: How to Solve and Avoid Difficult Problems in Your Practice (2006)
  • Becoming a Professional Life Coach: Lessons from the Institute for Life Coach Training (2nd ed. 2015)

Pat continues to coach, train, speak, and lead in the ever-evolving field of professional, life, and wellness coaching.

His new book, for a more general public is now out. Getting Naked: Emotional Transparency with the Right Person at the Right Time, in the Right Place. (see www.DrPatWilliams.com)

His new program based on the book is Conscious Living Mastery for Coaches, Therapists, Consultants and Leaders. Information can be found on his webpage below.

Website
https://drpatwilliams.com/

LinkedIn
http://linkedin.com/in/drpatwilliams

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/PatrickWilliamsMCC/

Get Your Copy of Dr. Patrick William’s Book! also in Audiobooks
https://drpatwilliams.com/new-book-from-dr-patrick-williams/

Leadership Quote
“There is no failure…only results”. Thomas Edison

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Welcome to the Keep Leading!® Podcast, the podcast dedicated to promoting leadership development and sharing leadership insights. Here’s your host, The Leadership Excelerator®, Eddie Turner.

Eddie Turner:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Keep Leading!® Podcast, the podcast dedicated to leadership development and insights. I’m your host, Eddie Turner, The Leadership Excelerator®. I work with leaders to accelerate performance and drive impact through the power of facilitation, coaching, and professional speaking.

On today’s episode, we’re going to talk about conscious living mastery. We’re going to talk about what that is, why it matters, and why as leaders we want to master this skill. We’re going to talk about this with Dr. Patrick Williams. Dr. Patrick Williams is a Master Certified Coach and a Board-Certified Coach. He’s one of the early pioneers of coaching and is often called the Ambassador of Life Coaching. He’s a licensed psychologist and has been in the executive coaching field since 1990 with companies such as Hewlett Packard, IBM, and Kodak. Dr. Pat is a co-founder and past board member of the International Coach Federation, known ICF. He co-chaired the ICF Regulatory Committee and Ethics Committee. He’s the past president of ACTO, the Association of Coach Training Organizations, and an honorary VP of the International Society of Coaching Psychology. Dr. Pat was introduced into the inaugural class of the Circle of Distinction, a global award from the International Coach Federation. He’s written multiple articles and has co-authored seven books. His latest book Getting Naked: Emotional Transparency with the Right Person at the Right Time in the Right Place is what we will discuss today.

Dr. Pat, welcome to the keep leading podcast.

Dr. Patrick Williams:
Thank you, Eddie. It’s a real pleasure to be here.
Eddie Turner:
I am just excited to have you because you and I have a mutual friend. I call him Sir Robert, Robert Stack. He kept telling me “Eddie, you’re getting really serious into this coaching world. And since that’s the case, there’s someone you must know.” And he kept telling me about Patrick Williams. He said “You got to meet him. He is one of the leaders in the industry. He co-founded ICF. He wrote most of those competencies you’re studying.” And he said that you and I just have to meet. So, he made the introduction and we met digitally but my oh my, what a treat it was to finally meet you in person at the Institute of Coaching’s Leadership Retreat in Boston.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yes, that was.
Eddie Turner:
That was pretty special.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yes, it was.
Eddie Turner:
So, now we want to talk about this concept of conscious living mastery and how that relates to the title of your book. Your title Getting Naked is actually quite provocative. Tell us the meaning and the message of that, please.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, it’s about being honest and being real. Let me let me go back to something you just said. I was one of the founding members of the ICF but I wasn’t the person who wrote the competencies. We had a Language Committee back then. There were many of us that wrote what they still are today. And I was part of that early process. So, in the spirit of being nakedly truthful right now, I wanted to say that.
Eddie Turner:
I appreciate that.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
What I think this is about, the book I wrote on that topic and the new program I have for coaches is really based on my life work, even why I became a psychologist and why I got into coaching. I think people can live more fully and more completely and beyond mediocrity if they find a certain group of committed listeners, maybe it’s only two or three people, where they can really share their truth. We all hide stuff. Things happen to us. Things have happened to us. Some of us had a traumatic upbringing. Some of us did things we’re not proud of or we’re ashamed of or we’re guilty of or we’ve given up on dreams that we had because maybe we got married, got pregnant, gave up too early. And so, this is about having a place to get naked emotionally. And the reason I use that title is because it feels like disrobing yourself in public, which is a common theme in dreaming. People often dream of being naked in public. Well, this is what that feels like. So, it’s not about nudity. It’s about personal honesty and sharing but with careful choosing of when and where and how and with whom you do that.
Eddie Turner:
So, getting naked and getting real, which means honesty, which means laying bare who we really are without the mask. And I like what you said about living more fully and living beyond mediocrity. That’s quite intriguing.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yeah, I just think all of us human beings shouldn’t settle. We shouldn’t settle for just living an okay life. Now, some people do but some people are drawn to personal or vocational or relational development. And that’s where coaching comes into. It helps you live beyond your okayness. It helps you not just settle. And I think getting naked is my metaphor for having a place where you can really share what is it you really want or what is it you gave up on that you want to revisit or what is it that you don’t even know what you don’t know. There’s something missing. And being able to share that out loud with a committed listener like a coach is where magic happens.
Eddie Turner:
Precisely because that’s what I was going to say. Some people may not even realize they are living a life of mediocrity. They may not even realize they’ve settled in. They’ve gotten comfortable.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Right.
Eddie Turner:
It seems normal for them. And it’s not until a coach or someone else comes into their life and starts to challenge their assumptions, challenge their current state and, to your point, the fact that they even have stopped dreaming.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yeah. I think the value of coaching. I mean, you mentioned that I was a psychologist since 1980. And I started doing coaching in 1990 with corporations back then. We’ll talk more about that but that was back in the days when it was remedial coaching. People were set to coaching to get their act together or else – executives that were having problems or executives that were adjusting to new things, maybe there was a team building thing that went on with the staff and they had to kind of get on board. Nowadays, people get coaching for high-performance opportunities – how can you get better at what you’re doing, how can you move to the next level – but all of that requires a certain level of, I guess, I call it emotional vulnerability. There’s a lot written today about emotional courageous vulnerability. Susan David wrote a book on emotional agility. You’ve got all Bernie Brown’s book. The recent CEO of Goldman Sachs said he wants his managers to be more transparent. So, leadership in today’s world has become a place where you need to be more real. You don’t need to totally disrobe; you don’t need to totally share every truth but we have to know when and where we have a mask on and why we’re wearing it because that makes sense. I mean, we don’t share ourselves totally nakedly everywhere but we have to be aware of what we’re not revealing.
Eddie Turner:
Yes, I was going to ask you to give us a little more clarity on that because for some people, they may feel you must wear a mask in the world we’re in because, otherwise, if we expose ourselves too much, then folks will gobble us up.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yeah, you do. And today, I mean, in coaching, some people talk about different roles we play or different masks we wear or internal family systems, which person are you being that’s in your internal board of directors but it’s like as long as you know that you’re wearing a mask at, let’s say, the Christmas party or the board meeting, I mean, you just can’t be naked everywhere, emotionally. And so, that’s why the metaphor fits for me.
Eddie Turner:
Very nice. So, you talk about a lot of very interesting things in this book that can help people understand the power of being authentic, being themselves at work, at home, in relationships, and in life. And in the end, you give a series of life skills, you believe, everyone must know and master. And one of those really stood out to me because of something I’m starting to see in many of my clients. I often use the emotional intelligence assessment, and one of the aspects of emotional intelligence is this idea of impulse control. And so, when it comes to impulse control, I will have a client talk to me about the reasons they’re struggling and how they can get control of themselves. And so, your book and that list of life skills, the last one you give people, this Number Six, and you say “We must learn the difference between responding versus reacting.” Can you talk about that?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yeah, that’s something I learned in my coach training many years ago and it just fit what I learned in my psychology training early on. We as human beings are programmed to react. We talk about fight, flight or freeze. They’ve added freeze nowadays. The fight or flight response; fight, flight or freeze. We want to run away but we want to fight or we want to just freeze. We don’t know what we’re doing. In coaching, we help people have a conversation about “Well, what’s stopping you?” or “What do you want?” or “What needs to happen?” or “Who do you need to be for this to happen?” So, responding means you have choices, right? When things happen, our immediate human response is to react but we can react internally. We can have that internal reaction and stop and be mindful for just a few seconds or a few minutes and then think of the various responses we can have to this opportunity. Instead of a challenge, I call it an opportunity. And that helps people make choices. Rather than be at risk, you’re at choice. And that’s a big distinction.
Eddie Turner:
Very nice, very nice. And how does this idea of conscious living mastery fold into this?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, everybody comes to coaching or to leadership training or to personal development to become more aware, really. Nobody comes to coaching and says “Yeah, my life’s great. I just wanted to share that with you. Nothing’s wrong.” People want something different. They want to have less of something, more of something. They want to stop something or start something but we in coaching eventually get to who you need to be for that to happen. And, I think, the concept is to be more real and in the moment have a conversation with somebody who’s a committed listener that helps you think what you’ve not thought, say what you’ve not said, dream out loud with a committed listener so you hear yourself differently and you get that new perspective of what it is you’re contemplating or thinking about.
Eddie Turner:
Very nice. Now, you’ve been a psychologist, as we talked about, for more than 40 years and a leadership coach. So, what are you up to these days?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, boy, that makes me feel old. I consider myself a wise elder rather than an old geezer. It’s hard to believe that I’ve done all that but my path has always been about personal development, no matter what I did, psychology, and I was trained in humanistic and transpersonal. So, I embraced Sigmund Freud. I was always about “Let’s not diagnose you. Let’s find out how you want your life to be different.” Then coaching came about and that’s the avenue that helped me. So, what I’m about today, I’m going to turn 70 in March, I’ve written all those books, I’ve done all the things that I have accolades for but that’s not what’s important to me. What’s important to me is the legacy that I’m leaving now for the coaching profession, my clients, my students, my friends, my colleagues. So, what I’m up to is a new program, it’s kind of the culmination of my life’s work based on my book Getting Naked, but it’s a new program called Getting Naked with Your Clothes On that’s housed under Coaching Living Mastery which we’re having this conversation about. And so, that plus having fun being a grandfather and all that stuff is what I want. I want people to access my new work so they can use it with their clients, smooth out the rough edges of their own life because, as coaches, we know, we teach and coach what we need to learn. We’re coaching people on what we’ve just overcome or evolved into or whatever. And we’re never perfect. We’re not realized beings chanting on a mountaintop but we are coaching people on what’s next for them. And if we don’t know what’s next for us, then we’re not being very authentic. So, what I’m about is this new program to help experienced, and I would even say new coaches, learn to smooth out their rough edges and work through a program that they can then use with their clients, whether it’s corporate, leadership, personal development, relationship, whatever you want to call it. It works for everybody.
Eddie Turner:
Very nice. So, you’ve got the book Getting Naked: Being Emotionally Transparent at the Right Time, the Right Place, and with the Right Person and you have a new workshop based on the work in the book.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yes, it’s an online course that people can take and then there’ll be live sessions with me twice a month as well.
Eddie Turner:
Outstanding. Thank you, Dr. Pat.

We are talking, ladies and gentlemen, to Dr. Patrick Williams, a Master Certified Coach and a board-certified coach and we’re talking about his book Getting Naked as well as Conscious Living Mastery. We’ll talk to Dr. Pat a little bit more right after this.

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Eddie Turner:
Okay, we’re back, everyone. We’re talking to Dr. Patrick Williams. We’re talking about Getting Naked and Conscious Living Mastery.

Now, one of the things that makes you so special, Dr. Patrick, is not just the fact you’re one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met but also, I find you very intriguing. I read some interesting things about you in your book, about some of your early work, and just the amount of people you’ve impacted even before going into the world of coaching but being one of the co-founders of ICF, one of the few people, less than 1% of all coaches in the world, to be a master certified coach, that really puts you in select company but there’s something else about you that I find very intriguing and that is you are the Ambassador of Life Coaching. And I find that intriguing for this reason. When I studied and became a certified coach, I had to pick which area I wanted to focus on my settled in on Executive Coaching and later on added Leadership Coaching. At the time, I thought about Life Coaching and I did do Life Coaching initially but I kind of would give that away. I would do that for nonprofit organizations or presidents and such like that but one of the things I started to discover also was that Life Coaching was starting to get a bad reputation. There’s a lot of programs where a person can run off to a certain city and two days later, couple hundred dollars, you are a certified official life coach. So much so has that impact the industry and the branding and what people consider about a life coach, that the International Coach Federation stopped calling the practice life coaching inside the ICF world and now refer to it as Personal Development Coaching. What is your view on life coaching, being its ambassador, and what has unfolded in the industry?

Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, first of all, I didn’t create that title. Somebody started calling me that because I wrote a book in 2000 called Therapist as Life Coach: Transforming Your Practice. I was a psychologist. I moved to coaching. I got a lot of therapists to add coaching to their business or moved to that arena. And I knew it would get a bad rap. I mean, Psychology got a bad rap. Look at the shows a Bob Newhart and the guy on Sheers. Kelsey Grammer later did whatever his radio show was. Psychology has always been made fun of and life coaching got made fun of too but when I wrote the books on life coaching, all of which had been bestsellers, I still get royalties today, so I’m thankful to say, I felt no matter what you call yourself up in parentheses, I would not put ‘Life Coach’ on my card if I wanted to get a gig with the federal government or IBM or Hewlett Packard today but Life Coaching is what I do. I coach the whole person. I don’t just coach what they’re having struggles with in their workplace. We coach their relationship or their parenting with their kids or their health. I mean, any conversation can take place. So, it’s a whole person approach. I happen to like this shift toward Personal Development Coaching. And that’s what I would call myself today. If I was renaming myself, I’d actually call myself Transformational Coaching because it’s not just about your job. We’re not human doings. We’re human beings. So, I think the term Life Coaching probably needs to take a seat to the back of the auditorium and we need to call it either Whole Person Coaching or Transformational Coaching or Personal Development Coaching. And then there’s, as you know, Executive Coaching, Wellness Coaching, Health Coaching, Relationship Coaching, on and on and on.
Eddie Turner:
Yes,
Dr. Patrick Williams:
But it’s always about our life, whether we call it that or not.
Eddie Turner:
Excellent. Thank you for getting that in there. I wanted to get your perspective as one of the vanguards to be able to share that. And, yes, the idea that you are the ambassador, what other people are saying about you, even as I was saying that.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yes, I wish I had an island in the Caribbean where my embassy was.
Eddie Turner:
And, yeah, all of coaching has really grown and much of that is due to organizations such as the ICF that have really done a lot to professionalize coaching from what it was considered not a real industry. And, to your point earlier, in the ‘90s, I remember working at GE at the time and anytime I heard that someone had a coach, it was almost a thing of shame and they kind of whispered it. It was remediation but these days, it’s a badge of honor.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Exactly, exactly.
Eddie Turner:
People proudly say they’re meeting with their coach at 2.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
And that was my goal. When I was a psychologist, I wished more and more people would see the benefit of going to see a psychologist but there was something about that, especially for men and for teenagers. Women have never had a problem. 70% of therapy clients are women and I think 70% or 60% of coaching clients are women because they do have a general tendency to share more honestly with somebody as opposed to males and teams generally. I think that’s changing. I think there’s a meme today about being more honest and real, as I talked about, but I will say if we were to create a profession today and we wanted to call it Psychotherapy, I’m not sure that would sound any better than Life Coaching.
Eddie Turner:
Yeah but, to your point, some things have a stigma attached to it.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yeah, exactly.
Eddie Turner:
So, people shy away from it for those reasons. They say “Hey, I don’t need help. I can’t admit a weakness. The only coach I want is the one on the football field.”
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Right.
Eddie Turner:
And so, this idea that as corporate athletes, we need a coach.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, I love your term Corporate Athletes because that’s the thing. If you want to play your best in life, in work, in relationships, in health, whatever it is, in your whole life, coaching is not a stigma. It’s a sign that if you could have done it by yourself, you already would have. And nothing in my life worthwhile has been done in a vacuum. It’s all been in some sort of collaboration or co-leading.
Eddie Turner:
Indeed. And, I think, the other reason why I always use that analogy is the idea that even the greatest athletes realize that, well, most do, not all, but most realize that they need a coach to help them see their blind spots.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Oh, beautiful. Well said. Yes.
Eddie Turner:
Because there are some athletes that feel they don’t need anyone, that they are the greatest gift to humanity. And there are those, and I think about Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods, folks like that who have their coaches, they work with their coaches, they actually believe in practice and work ethic and not this notion that “I don’t mean any of that.” And so, the corporate athlete or the daily person in their life who recognizes that “I may be great but I can even get to a greater level if I had someone to assist me and help me see those blind spots and shore them up.”
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Right. Well said,
Eddie Turner:
Thank you.

Now, as someone who’s got deep roots in this field, you’ve seen and experienced a lot. What’s the moment or the achievement that you’re most proud of as a coach?

Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, it’s not all the accolades that you listed. It’s not the titles and the awards I’ve gotten. It’s not about me. And, I think, the biggest thing, to tell you the truth, is when I started my nonprofit Coaching Global Village, we started doing training in a federal prison as a donation. And I thought I was going to make a video about all the benefits that coaching did for the prisoners and they had great benefits but the Bureau of Prisons, BOP, wouldn’t let us use the material even though it was all positive but I have continued to have a relationship with many of the men that I coached in a federal prison and mentor now that they’re out as returning citizens. And then I also co-sponsor a program for women to get out of prison. That’s the most meaningful for me. I’m glad to work with executives and leaders and all the different people. I’ve gotten students, I’ve trained them in my university, and I had for a while my coach training school but the biggest impact for me is the prisoners got out and took time to take the training behind prison walls. And, frankly, their essays and their test results were better than some of my graduate degree professionals that I’ve trained over the years. And I told them once, I said “You guys, these essays and these tests and stuff, you really get this material.” They go “Well, we got nothing else to do.” They said that laughingly but it’s like imagine yourself behind prison bars and waiting to get out and make a difference in life and reclaim your life. So, that’s what I’m most proud of.
Eddie Turner:
Yes, I can relate. I did a little bit of that. And there’s something to be said for, there was this phrase “The richest place was the graveyard because of all the untapped talent, talent that was unrealized” and, I think, I started thinking about that in my fourth tour in the prisons because so many of these folks either had troublesome circumstances or circumstances that if they had been just a little bit different, what could have become? And then someone like you comes into their life and it makes a difference. What role have you seen coaching play in the recidivism of these folks?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, I wish I could be bigger but I think if we can allow coaching to become a common strategy in prisons, when people get out or return to their citizenship, it will help them make a difference because they find out who they wanted to be before they made the bad decisions that got them into prison. I mean, stuff happens. I could have been in prison. I could have in college. I could have been driving home drunk and killed somebody. There are all kinds of reasons. I could have been there where they are. So, we’re all fortunate that we’ve never been in that incarceration and the Justice Department. So, I think there’s so much resource for people that have learned their life’s mistakes and want to make a difference that we can use as an ongoing resource for better living for lots of people.
Eddie Turner:
Excellent, excellent. So, given your history in the field of coaching, given all that you accomplished, what’s next? What’s on the horizon? What do you see as the future of coaching?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, I wish I had a crystal ball but my fantasy is I knew it would become big and I knew it would become your [inaudible][29:16]. So, we’ve got lots of coaching institutions and certifications and organizations, I’m a member of many, but that’s true of anything that strikes a chord with society. What I love about coaching … And, I think, the ICF is really growing into itself. There was a time when I thought “Oh god, they’re becoming just money for this and money for this and membership for this and certification.” I think that what we’re coming on is a recognition by the citizenship around the world because we’re Global, 180 some countries’ coaches and maybe more, 48,000 members of the ICF, I don’t know what it is today, but it’s a big impact. And I think it’s got a possibility to create an opportunity for coaching for those who can’t otherwise afford it, which is why I created Coaching Global Village. My big vision was if coaching’s so great for executives, why can’t we take the value of the coach approach to those who are underserved, underdelivered, underfed, underhoused, whatever. And there’s a little bit of that going on but I think it could become bigger. And maybe the ICF or the European Coaching Council or the Association of Coaching in Europe or whoever, maybe we need to form a consolidated union that says “We’re going to make sure coaching reaches those who can’t otherwise afford it” because the changes that will happen will affect humanity at a big level, big level.
Eddie Turner:
Wonderful.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
And I think that’s what’s next.
Eddie Turner:
All right. Well, we will see what the future holds. Thank you so much. How would you summarize our conversation today?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, Eddie, it’s a great conversation like if I have conversations with my coach, I hear myself say things I wouldn’t have otherwise said, think new things but the bottom line for me and why I’ve created my program and why I’m on here as an interviewee is coaching right now is a mechanism for people coming to a conversation to find out what it is they don’t know, to be comfortable what it is they don’t know and to ask and to hear questions that stimulate them to think new thoughts, to feel new feelings. My work today is all about emotional learning. You mentioned emotional intelligence earlier in the program. Well, if we’re going to have emotional intelligence, we ought to know what to do with it. We ought to learn how to be more emotional appropriately. I call emotions energy in motion – e-motion. So, coaches need to learn that emotions are a big part of coaching but you don’t need to do personal archaeology like a psychotherapist. You just “What are you feeling? What are you experiencing right now? What needs to change? I can see you’re sensing some things. Don’t be afraid of it.” Emotions will change when the energy is expressed.
Eddie Turner:
Wonderful.

And on the Keep Leading!® Podcast, we like to give leaders ideas, quotes that they can use to keep leading. Do you have a quote that you can share with our leaders today?

Dr. Patrick Williams:
Yeah. First of all, I think leadership is an activity, not a position. So, whether you’re in a position of leadership or not, you need to be in the activity of leadership and encourage those who are around you to be in that but I think Thomas Edison’s quote that I live by is “There are no failures. Only results.” So, experiment, be curious, try things. That’s what it’s about. And when your employees come to you or those who are under your supervision as a leader, really embrace them for experimentation, within limits. We all know corporate limits, I mean, real rules and regulations, etc. but the best things happen when people try new things. So, encourage those that you work with. Also have a stance of leadership because everybody’s a leader when they step up to solve a problem.
Eddie Turner:
Indeed. “There is no failure. Only results” from Thomas Edison.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Exactly.
Eddie Turner:
Thank you, Dr. Pat. Where can my listeners learn more about you?
Dr. Patrick Williams:
Well, there are two sites. DrPatWilliams.com Calm is my main website. And we’re launching right now, it’ll be brand new when you hear this podcast, ConsciousLivingMastery.com and that’ll be a program that’s available to coaches, therapists, consultants, helping professionals and those who are on a track of extreme personal development. ConsciousLivingMastery.com and DrPatWilliams.com.
Eddie Turner:
Wonderful. Well, we will be sure to put all that into the show notes so that folks will have easy access and be able to follow you, connect with you and keep up with you and all the great work that you’re doing. And thank you for helping us understand what it means to develop Conscious Living Mastery and to get real by Getting Naked. Thank you for being here on the show.
Dr. Patrick Williams:
You’re very welcome.
Eddie Turner:
And thank you for listening. That concludes this episode, everyone. I’m Eddie Turner, The Leadership Excelerator®, reminding you that leadership is not about our title or our position. Leadership is an activity. Leadership is action. It’s not the case of once a leader, always a leader. It’s not a garment we put on and take off. We must be a leader at our core and allow it to emanate in all we do. So, whatever you’re doing, always keep leading.

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